Forum - Tech Help - PC suggestions please - Messages http://www.muvizu.com/Forum/topic6065-pc-suggestions-please.aspx Forum - Tech Help - PC suggestions please - Messages en-us http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Jitbit AspNetForum Mon, 28 Nov 2016 18:51:13 GMT Mon, 28 Nov 2016 18:51:13 GMT http://www.muvizu.com/Forum/topic6065-pc-suggestions-please.aspx Message from LULU153 Rodrisilva wrote:
LULU153 wrote:
I ended up with this pc http://www.pcworld.co.uk/gbuk/computing/desktop-pcs/desktop-pcs/hp-pavilion-23-q110na-23-touchscreen-all-in-one-pc-10138515-pdt.html, at £633.49.
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Ok Lulu
I think it will be OK although AMD processors are not so exuberant as Intel ones.
Now it 's time to start doing more movies.
I'm looking forward to see your next video.



Many thanks Rodrisilva ]]> Mon, 28 Nov 2016 18:51:13 GMT http://www.muvizu.com/Forum/topic6065-pc-suggestions-please.aspx Message from LULU153 Mon, 28 Nov 2016 18:46:02 GMT http://www.muvizu.com/Forum/topic6065-pc-suggestions-please.aspx Message from PatMarrNC LULU153 wrote:
My latest update (to my previous animation) is here - https://vimeo.com/193349833 There's more to come!.


I for one AM looking forward to more fun and frivolity! I have a feeling that LULU is about to become a forum regular!]]> Mon, 28 Nov 2016 15:41:36 GMT http://www.muvizu.com/Forum/topic6065-pc-suggestions-please.aspx Message from Rodrisilva LULU153 wrote:
I ended up with this pc http://www.pcworld.co.uk/gbuk/computing/desktop-pcs/desktop-pcs/hp-pavilion-23-q110na-23-touchscreen-all-in-one-pc-10138515-pdt.html, at £633.49.
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Ok Lulu
I think it will be OK although AMD processors are not so exuberant as Intel ones.
Now it 's time to start doing more movies.
I'm looking forward to see your next video.]]> Mon, 28 Nov 2016 14:21:23 GMT http://www.muvizu.com/Forum/topic6065-pc-suggestions-please.aspx Message from LULU153 PatMarrNC wrote:
LULU153 wrote:
I'm setting Muvizu up now, on a computer not dissimilar to one I sold a few years ago... Hopefully it'll all run smoothly. Watch this space... or not!

Thanks for all your help everyone


aw, gee.. no thanks required! It's fun to spend other peoples' money! ;-)

We can't wait to see more LULU movies... (Welcome to the forum)



Thanks Pat!]]> Mon, 28 Nov 2016 11:40:36 GMT http://www.muvizu.com/Forum/topic6065-pc-suggestions-please.aspx Message from LULU153 http://www.pcworld.co.uk/gbuk/computing/desktop-pcs/desktop-pcs/hp-pavilion-23-q110na-23-touchscreen-all-in-one-pc-10138515-pdt.html, at £633.49. It seems to be fine and I don't expect to be producing any big productions. Having had another Pavilion a couple of years ago (and selling it at some loss!) as well as having an apple MacBook Air for everyday use, I couldn't justify spending much more on a pc.

My latest update (to my previous animation) is here - https://vimeo.com/193349833 There's more to come!

Thanks Rodrisilva for your comments.]]> Mon, 28 Nov 2016 11:40:11 GMT http://www.muvizu.com/Forum/topic6065-pc-suggestions-please.aspx Message from Rodrisilva Minimal specs work for simple productions with a high dose of patience, enthusiasm and tolerance. Importing more and more models, trying to make a splendorous asset, full of diversity, beauty and compositum need more than minimal specs.
Trying muvizu is one think evolve on it needs different hardware approach. Muvizu price is very good although packed with some bugs. Hardware is another story.]]> Mon, 28 Nov 2016 00:00:15 GMT http://www.muvizu.com/Forum/topic6065-pc-suggestions-please.aspx Message from PatMarrNC LULU153 wrote:
I'm setting Muvizu up now, on a computer not dissimilar to one I sold a few years ago... Hopefully it'll all run smoothly. Watch this space... or not!

Thanks for all your help everyone


aw, gee.. no thanks required! It's fun to spend other peoples' money! ;-)

We can't wait to see more LULU movies... (Welcome to the forum)]]> Sat, 26 Nov 2016 19:13:49 GMT http://www.muvizu.com/Forum/topic6065-pc-suggestions-please.aspx Message from PatMarrNC
I was getting ready to sink about $2,000 into my system, but after reading some articles I decided to start with a SSD and see if that speeds things up enough that I don't need to keep spending money.]]> Sat, 26 Nov 2016 19:11:09 GMT http://www.muvizu.com/Forum/topic6065-pc-suggestions-please.aspx Message from MrDrWho13 Farscaper wrote:
My best savings was getting a cheap 720p 32" TV for my monitor. Best thing I ever did for my aging eyes. I'm sure the 1080's are cheap by now, as well, since that was two years ago.

I bought my PC and monitor in early 2014 and the prices don't really seem to have changed. Parts have got better for the money, but a £500 PC today will perform as well on current software as a £500 PC 2 years ago will have performed with software of that time.]]> Sat, 26 Nov 2016 18:07:06 GMT http://www.muvizu.com/Forum/topic6065-pc-suggestions-please.aspx Message from Farscaper
I added an SSD drive for C: Bought two 2 TB storage drives so I could run RAID and relegated the old drive to a third spot but only because I like to spend money. Also updated the video card even though I likely never taxed the old one but read recommendations on forums. Ha.

Even though you can't buy much from two years ago I don't feel that tech has advanced that far. Super video cards are for gamers and render farms. Middle of the road and budget should suffice for most.

My best savings was getting a cheap 720p 32" TV for my monitor. Best thing I ever did for my aging eyes. I'm sure the 1080's are cheap by now, as well, since that was two years ago.]]> Sat, 26 Nov 2016 17:23:43 GMT http://www.muvizu.com/Forum/topic6065-pc-suggestions-please.aspx Message from LULU153 Hopefully it'll all run smoothly. Watch this space... or not!

Thanks for all your help everyone ]]> Sat, 26 Nov 2016 15:56:09 GMT http://www.muvizu.com/Forum/topic6065-pc-suggestions-please.aspx Message from PatMarrNC LULU153 wrote:
Oh gosh thank you for that. Im actually in currys now about to hand over a load of dosh to someone whose gone through my printed out list of everyones suggestions.
Needing a double vodka 😨😊


Yes, but think of all the FUN you're going to have making Muvizu videos that amaze and amuse your friends! If you put a monetary value on fun, this could turn out to be the deal of a lifetime!]]> Sat, 26 Nov 2016 15:17:56 GMT http://www.muvizu.com/Forum/topic6065-pc-suggestions-please.aspx Message from LULU153 Needing a double vodka 😨😊]]> Sat, 26 Nov 2016 14:29:34 GMT http://www.muvizu.com/Forum/topic6065-pc-suggestions-please.aspx Message from MrDrWho13
PCPartPicker part list: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/hX69tJ
Price breakdown by merchant: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/hX69tJ/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i5-6500 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor (£188.49 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: MSI H110M Gaming Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard (£64.47 @ Scan.co.uk)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport LT 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory (£50.11 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£90.00 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£41.99 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon RX 460 4GB WINDFORCE OC Video Card (£106.26 @ Amazon UK)
Case: Cooler Master N200 MicroATX Mini Tower Case (£41.92 @ Amazon UK)
Power Supply: EVGA 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply (£44.99 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit
Monitor: AOC G2260VWQ6 21.5" 75Hz Monitor (£95.99 @ Amazon UK)
Other: Logitech Desktop MK120 - UK layout (£14.99 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £739.21
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-11-26 13:44 GMT+0000]]> Sat, 26 Nov 2016 13:45:35 GMT http://www.muvizu.com/Forum/topic6065-pc-suggestions-please.aspx Message from MrDrWho13 You will notice a massive improvement on the daily operation of a computer if you buy one with a Solid State Drive (SSD) rather than a standard spinning Hard Disk Drive (HDD) because loading times will be faster when opening programs and files. If they don't have any SSD computers on offer, try to avoid disks with speeds of 5400RPM and below because your computer will feel sluggish when booting up and loading programs. (More so as time goes on)]]> Sat, 26 Nov 2016 13:43:10 GMT http://www.muvizu.com/Forum/topic6065-pc-suggestions-please.aspx Message from LULU153 MrDrWho13 wrote:
Ok so for a fast gaming-spec PC with the latest generation graphics, the lowest cost for the individual parts seems to be £740.
I'll look for pre-builts with the same specs, but most seem to be from the previous generation which would make the lifespan of the PC shorter.
If you want to go with Pat's advice, avoid anything with the letter m after the name of the graphics (EG: GTX950M) because they're built for laptops and are very under-powered.
edited by MrDrWho13 on 26/11/2016




Thanks again MrDrWho. My last pc that I had when I made my animation was a HP Pavilion I seem to remember and it worked fine, though rendering was a bit slow I guess. I shall take a shopping list of all of your suggestions to Currys and see what they will try and flog me!

Thank you ]]> Sat, 26 Nov 2016 13:37:47 GMT http://www.muvizu.com/Forum/topic6065-pc-suggestions-please.aspx Message from LULU153 PatMarrNC wrote:
Muvizu is based on a Game engine, so a computer that was intended for gaming is going to be your best bet. Unfortunately, hard-core gamers are competitive and they know that having the best gear helps them to win... so as a business demographic, they are unique in their willingness to spend money for high-end capability. That drives up the price for the rest of us..

But if you search for the phrase "gaming computer" you will find some machines in the $400-$500 range that are capable of handling the requirements imposed by your sample video.

Regarding the practice of building a PC with components: That's the best way to get a computer made of all best-in-class components, but I don't think that's what you want.

Key things to look for:
  • at least 8 gigs of ram
  • an intel I5 or I7 CPU (I7 is better if you can find one on sale)
  • and something in the description that says either GTX or RADEON


Depending on your sons' ages, there's a high possibility that they have gaming computers they've outgrown (for gamers, "outgrown" means it's over 6 months old and is therefore not cutting edge any longer). If so, maybe they'd just give it to you, (or sell it for an amount you can both live with) .


Final thought is to find a computer store that is having sales and ask an employee to show you which computers are for gaming. Then, from that group see if any fit your budget.


Good luck shopping, and I hope to see you back on the forum soon posting more videos!


Thanks Pat. My kids are way beyond gaming and don't have anything suitable, but thanks for the suggestions and all advice too ]]> Sat, 26 Nov 2016 13:36:15 GMT http://www.muvizu.com/Forum/topic6065-pc-suggestions-please.aspx Message from MrDrWho13 I'll look for pre-builts with the same specs, but most seem to be from the previous generation which would make the lifespan of the PC shorter.
If you want to go with Pat's advice, avoid anything with the letter m after the name of the graphics (EG: GTX950M) because they're built for laptops and are very under-powered.
edited by MrDrWho13 on 26/11/2016]]> Sat, 26 Nov 2016 12:49:48 GMT http://www.muvizu.com/Forum/topic6065-pc-suggestions-please.aspx Message from PatMarrNC
But if you search for the phrase "gaming computer" you will find some machines in the $400-$500 range that are capable of handling the requirements imposed by your sample video.

Regarding the practice of building a PC with components: That's the best way to get a computer made of all best-in-class components, but I don't think that's what you want.

Key things to look for:
  • at least 8 gigs of ram
  • an intel I5 or I7 CPU (I7 is better if you can find one on sale)
  • and something in the description that says either GTX or RADEON


Depending on your sons' ages, there's a high possibility that they have gaming computers they've outgrown (for gamers, "outgrown" means it's over 6 months old and is therefore not cutting edge any longer). If so, maybe they'd just give it to you, (or sell it for an amount you can both live with) .


Final thought is to find a computer store that is having sales and ask an employee to show you which computers are for gaming. Then, from that group see if any fit your budget.


Good luck shopping, and I hope to see you back on the forum soon posting more videos!]]> Sat, 26 Nov 2016 12:34:58 GMT http://www.muvizu.com/Forum/topic6065-pc-suggestions-please.aspx Message from LULU153 ]]> Sat, 26 Nov 2016 12:04:08 GMT http://www.muvizu.com/Forum/topic6065-pc-suggestions-please.aspx Message from MrDrWho13 LULU153 wrote:
Aah bless you, thanks so much Mr Dr Who. That one is sitting in my Curry's basket - I'd better remove it

I'm currently looking at individual part costs and the price is higher than I anticipated including the monitor, Operating System, and enough processing power. (Currently ~£850 total as far as I can work out) :/
I'll keep looking for the cheapest option but I think either the prices have gone up in the last few months or I've deluded myself to think the parts are cheaper than they actually are.]]> Sat, 26 Nov 2016 10:39:18 GMT http://www.muvizu.com/Forum/topic6065-pc-suggestions-please.aspx Message from LULU153 PatMarrNC wrote:
LULU153 wrote:
Oh god, this is soooo not like being married!!!


and such is the way of little red devils.... ;-)

]]> Sat, 26 Nov 2016 10:34:28 GMT http://www.muvizu.com/Forum/topic6065-pc-suggestions-please.aspx Message from LULU153 ]]> Sat, 26 Nov 2016 10:34:09 GMT http://www.muvizu.com/Forum/topic6065-pc-suggestions-please.aspx Message from MrDrWho13 LULU153 wrote:
Is this suitable?

http://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/computing/desktop-pcs/desktop-pcs/hp-24-g099na-24-full-hd-all-in-one-pc-white-10151124-pdt.html

Hope that link works!
Thanks

I don't think that'll be anywhere near powerful enough, but I'll have a look for similarly priced computers which have enough power.]]> Sat, 26 Nov 2016 10:21:16 GMT http://www.muvizu.com/Forum/topic6065-pc-suggestions-please.aspx Message from PatMarrNC LULU153 wrote:
Oh god, this is soooo not like being married!!!


and such is the way of little red devils.... ;-)]]> Sat, 26 Nov 2016 00:26:08 GMT http://www.muvizu.com/Forum/topic6065-pc-suggestions-please.aspx Message from PatMarrNC I'll defer to the younger folk who are more tech savvy than I.]]> Sat, 26 Nov 2016 00:24:58 GMT http://www.muvizu.com/Forum/topic6065-pc-suggestions-please.aspx Message from LULU153
http://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/computing/desktop-pcs/desktop-pcs/hp-24-g099na-24-full-hd-all-in-one-pc-white-10151124-pdt.html

Hope that link works!
Thanks]]> Sat, 26 Nov 2016 00:08:47 GMT http://www.muvizu.com/Forum/topic6065-pc-suggestions-please.aspx Message from LULU153 Fri, 25 Nov 2016 21:08:25 GMT http://www.muvizu.com/Forum/topic6065-pc-suggestions-please.aspx Message from LULU153 Fri, 25 Nov 2016 20:59:56 GMT http://www.muvizu.com/Forum/topic6065-pc-suggestions-please.aspx Message from PatMarrNC LULU153 wrote:

Still, a little encouragement to buy another computer is always very tempting.....


Lulu... imagine a little devil on your shoulder, whispering in your ear.... "It's OK to buy a new PC... it's okaaaayyyy..."
also
"buyyyy... buyyyy..."

;-)

PS, I just watched your video.. you definitely need to get a computer so you can continue the legacy!]]> Fri, 25 Nov 2016 20:53:30 GMT http://www.muvizu.com/Forum/topic6065-pc-suggestions-please.aspx Message from LULU153 I'm not making massive animations - after I did the last one I vowed I'd never make another one again! It's here https://vimeo.com/100444035 to show the kind of thing I want to make again, or update perhaps 2 years on.

Still, a little encouragement to buy another computer is always very tempting..... ]]> Fri, 25 Nov 2016 20:44:09 GMT http://www.muvizu.com/Forum/topic6065-pc-suggestions-please.aspx Message from MrDrWho13 PatMarrNC wrote:
And of course.. today's Black Friday.. the one day of the year when computers are less expensive

"Cyber Monday" is meant to have deals too isn't it? (I'm not sure really, it doesn't seem to be very good over here in the UK)]]> Fri, 25 Nov 2016 20:30:20 GMT http://www.muvizu.com/Forum/topic6065-pc-suggestions-please.aspx Message from PatMarrNC
We have people here who are pushing the limits, and for their productions they really NEED a beefy system. But if you are mainly interested in making short presentations without a lot of special effects, you can get by with a more generic computer. But what you don't spend in money, you'll spend in time... because all that beef makes Muvizu run faster.

Since you've already paid for it, you should weigh the cost of another animation package against the cost of another computer. And of course.. today's Black Friday.. the one day of the year when computers are less expensive]]> Fri, 25 Nov 2016 20:28:41 GMT http://www.muvizu.com/Forum/topic6065-pc-suggestions-please.aspx Message from LULU153 Maybe I should think about getting parallels on my mac! Or some mac based animation software.... How I wish Muvizu ran on a mac

Thank you ]]> Fri, 25 Nov 2016 17:59:39 GMT http://www.muvizu.com/Forum/topic6065-pc-suggestions-please.aspx Message from MrDrWho13 I think you will seriously want to consider a desktop PC. Laptops are massively under-powered for the price and you can barely call the larger ones "portable" (Too large for most bags and battery that lasts 10 minutes). Smaller laptops simply will not be able to cope with Muvizu.
In terms of specs for a desktop PC, you'll probably be looking at an intel i5/i7, at least 8GB of RAM, an SSD (And HDD if you need additional storage), ~500W PSU, any additional peripherals such as a monitor, and a GPU from the list below depending on your budget (Ordered by price) :
  • RX460
  • GTX 1050ti
  • RX470
  • RX480
  • GTX1060
  • GTX1070
  • GTX1080

(Overall price can vary from ~£500-~£1200)

How much are you planning to spend?]]> Fri, 25 Nov 2016 17:46:12 GMT http://www.muvizu.com/Forum/topic6065-pc-suggestions-please.aspx Message from LULU153
And having paid for Muvizu last time round, if I download again onto another pc does my previous payment still count?

Thank you!]]> Fri, 25 Nov 2016 14:48:24 GMT