Although truth be told, free software does have one detriment about it. We all know that the Muvizu devs are very vocal and resonsive to our needs, requests, and "demands" (heh heh heh), but typically in a free software model, the philosophy is "hey, you don't like what we've added, or not added, go somewhere else, it's not like you bought this..." I've even seen other users of free apps say things like "what do you expect, it's free after all..." (agian, let me reiterate, I am not saying the Muvizu guys (and gals??) are like this at all.

Free software typically has a poor reputation, espcially free applications with great features. People's conception is "it's free, it must suck...". I work as a software developer myself, and even in my company we've lost potential sales because they customers thought our software was too cheap, so it must not be al that capable.

the philosophy is "hey, you don't like what we've added, or not added, go somewhere else, it's not like you bought this..."

Wizaerd wrote:


Yes I knew that! I was just trawling around the 'net for a definition of the differennce between KFs and WPs

PS Wizaerd - how you getting on with hitfilm as i'm thinking of purchasing too?
edited by toonarama on 27/07/2011

I've seen across numbers of threads the notion to "pay for more features." I'm pretty sure the Muvizu team always replies to this with "Muvizu will always be free." Honestly, I hate software that tiers its features. Make it as is and sell it for a price. Or in this case, give it away for nothing. Let me choose what I want to use, not your price structure.

I'm speaking way out of turn here, but I don't think that the Muvizu team hasn't implemented the features we want because we're not paying for them, more like it's just taking them time to get them implemented correctly.

Keyframes are most certainly not a Flash thing, they are a standard element of any type of animation,

I thought waypoints were just to create/adjust the position of a path.......where as keyframes would create the position and depending on where you put ure other keyframes would adjust the speed and direction of the motion between keyframes....but can also be moved in the timeline etc......

There are probebly many versions of each and we are all thinking of different versions

Neil wrote:


Seems to be a Flash thingy where a “keyframe” stores every setting of every “layer” item on the current canvas at a particular point, whereas a “waypoint” just stores one setting.

Keyframes work like so: just put the camera where you want it to start, put it where you want it to end, and the program automatically does the movement for you. Is this the same for waypoints?

There are probebly many versions of each and we are all thinking of different versions

Maybe I'm being thick as usual, but I'm not completely clear on how keyframes and waypoints differ. Care to enlighten me?

Disclaimer: Not an official response. :p

But really guys, how about those keyframes?

I was suggesting that there should be one version with all the desired features that could be accessed by advanced users when required.

No no no!
I didn't mean that there should be a couple of versions.

I agree that it would be best if the non-commercial version of Muvizu remains free (who wouldn't!) but I still see some sense in having a couple of versions
edited by toonarama on 27/07/2011

Danimal wrote:


Totally agree and sympathise, but could an eight year old get their head round such a system?
Muvizu is built with simplicity in mind so that anyone from eight to eighty can pick it up and create a movie in next to no time. The problem is that movies with outstanding quality will (in my opinion) not be made by eight year olds. They will be made by older animation enthusiasts who would love to have features like keyframe options for cameras etc.
So what's the answer? Does Muvizu evolve into a tool aimed at the older enthusiast or does it maintain it's simplicity for all approach and sacrifice more advanced features that would alienate the average Joe?

Can't we have both? A Muvizu that has a simple interface with limited menus etc but also has the option to change to a more involved UI with all the goodies that the more adventurous user would love?
Muvizu standard...."click"....Muvizu advanced

Thoughts?


Cheers
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Jumping, stomping, screaming agreement with this. Camera starts here, ends here, movement occurs. Oh how I would love that. In fact, every time I do even the slightest camera movement only to have to go horribly awry I curse about the lack of a basic keyframe system.