Forum - Competitions, Events & News - Apologize - Messages http://www.muvizu.com/Forum/topic6049-apologize.aspx Forum - Competitions, Events & News - Apologize - Messages en-us http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Jitbit AspNetForum Fri, 18 Nov 2016 19:00:33 GMT Fri, 18 Nov 2016 19:00:33 GMT http://www.muvizu.com/Forum/topic6049-apologize.aspx Message from tonyob67 MrDrWho13 wrote:
Dreeko wrote:
But before I do can I just say that you can make really good toons with only a couple of characters. You don't need loads of different objects. Concentrate on writing quality and then start tooning

Yes, this is exactly what I've been saying about Muvizu for years. It's built perfectly for silly little sketches.


I agree, but in my particular case, I want to make better quality sketches every time, like for example the videos of Rod Silva, and for that, you need objects and different things, according to the story that you are working on, to build your set, things you can not find in the muvizu store. I think I am going to star building my own toon city using the primitive shapes which ikes very kindly shared, I will like to learn how to model, but I'd rather spend my time making videos]]> Fri, 18 Nov 2016 19:00:33 GMT http://www.muvizu.com/Forum/topic6049-apologize.aspx Message from PatMarrNC Dreeko wrote:
Looks like I've been away so long that folks don't recognise when I'm joking. Ah well back into the shadows I go...

But before I do can I just say that you can make really good toons with only a couple of characters. You don't need loads of different objects. Concentrate on writing quality and then start tooning
edited by Dreeko on 18/11/2016


Dreeko, please accept my apology if I misinterpreted you. It's been a tense thread, and I think we're all on guard right now. I have great respect for you and your videos... and your advice about simplicity coupled with good writing.. that perfectly summarizes the appeal of your work. In my opinion your projects have consistently been textbook examples of succinct writing and well-timed execution. I have never watched a Dreeko video without being amazed by how good it is.]]> Fri, 18 Nov 2016 18:46:49 GMT http://www.muvizu.com/Forum/topic6049-apologize.aspx Message from MrDrWho13 Dreeko wrote:
But before I do can I just say that you can make really good toons with only a couple of characters. You don't need loads of different objects. Concentrate on writing quality and then start tooning

Yes, this is exactly what I've been saying about Muvizu for years. It's built perfectly for silly little sketches.]]> Fri, 18 Nov 2016 18:37:58 GMT http://www.muvizu.com/Forum/topic6049-apologize.aspx Message from PatMarrNC I agree. But I do not think there is any problem in sharing models with other forum members with external links, or importing models from any modeling program if we use them in our own videos or we share them without economic benefit with other members as they do in other forums, without putting them At the muvizu store...Just to help others, am I wrong?
Based on my understanding of the Sketchup General Model License, I think you are correct. As long as they don't end up in a repository from which they can be downloaded while bypassing Sketchup's control.

Good point. You should be able to convert Sketchup models for your own use all day long.]]> Fri, 18 Nov 2016 18:32:06 GMT http://www.muvizu.com/Forum/topic6049-apologize.aspx Message from Dreeko
But before I do can I just say that you can make really good toons with only a couple of characters. You don't need loads of different objects. Concentrate on writing quality and then start tooning
edited by Dreeko on 18/11/2016]]> Fri, 18 Nov 2016 18:26:36 GMT http://www.muvizu.com/Forum/topic6049-apologize.aspx Message from tonyob67 PatMarrNC wrote:
Dreeko wrote:
I don't see the problem. These things were only sold second hand. Think of the Muvizu store as a Gumtree for 3d stuff lol!


Contrary to some comments made in this thread, I think Digimania and the people of the forum DO take copyright seriously. We all agreed on the copyright issues, most of the discussion was about how it was handled, and whether or not Clayster acted with full knowledge of the licensing .

The good news is that Digimania removed all offending items from the store... plus, some people (myself included) have voluntarily removed items that came from Sketchup. The store should be clean today. It was a good thing to have this wakeup call. Now we need to KEEP it clean.

Going forward I think we'll see more focus on making our own models and less focus on importing existing models. We really need to be looking at making our own music too.

FWIW, Copyright law extends to characters, which are the intellectual property of their creators. All the stories about comic characters, movie & TV characters, and any video that rips sound tracks from movies... all that is equally not OK.

In my opinion the forum culture should steadfastly advocate and reinforce the practice of originality in all things... music, characters, models, stories

My 2 cents... more on this later



I agree. But I do not think there is any problem in sharing models with other forum members with external links, or importing models from any modeling program if we use them in our own videos or we share them without economic benefit with other members as they do in other forums, without putting them At the muvizu store...Just to help others, am I wrong?
edited by tonyob67 on 18/11/2016
edited by tonyob67 on 18/11/2016]]> Fri, 18 Nov 2016 18:20:14 GMT http://www.muvizu.com/Forum/topic6049-apologize.aspx Message from PatMarrNC Dreeko wrote:
I don't see the problem. These things were only sold second hand. Think of the Muvizu store as a Gumtree for 3d stuff lol!


Contrary to some comments made in this thread, I think Digimania and the people of the forum DO take copyright seriously. We all agreed on the copyright issues, most of the discussion was about how it was handled, and whether or not Clayster acted with full knowledge of the licensing .

The good news is that Digimania removed all offending items from the store... plus, some people (myself included) have voluntarily removed items that came from Sketchup. The store should be clean today. It was a good thing to have this wakeup call. Now we need to KEEP it clean.

Going forward I think we'll see more focus on making our own models and less focus on importing existing models. We really need to be looking at making our own music too.

FWIW, Copyright law extends to characters, which are the intellectual property of their creators. All the stories about comic characters, movie & TV characters, and any video that rips sound tracks from movies... all that is equally not OK.

In my opinion the forum culture should steadfastly advocate and reinforce the practice of originality in all things... music, characters, models, stories

My 2 cents... more on this later]]> Fri, 18 Nov 2016 17:25:05 GMT http://www.muvizu.com/Forum/topic6049-apologize.aspx Message from clayster2012 MrDrWho13 wrote:
Dreeko wrote:
I don't see the problem. These things were only sold second hand. Think of the Muvizu store as a Gumtree for 3d stuff lol!

I've seen these models advertised on the forum many times, and haven't once noticed anything about them not being Clayster's own work.
Some of the apology seems a tad insincere or feigned to me, but I imagine that's simply down to the words he's used to explain himself.
However, it's clear Clayster was a bit naive about the whole situation, and he's taught anyone who reads this thread a valuable lesson.
I hope nobody else makes the same mistakes.


Thanks but it was just the Fantasy packs, anyways lets let this topic die, I'll restart another coming soon topic.]]> Fri, 18 Nov 2016 17:16:06 GMT http://www.muvizu.com/Forum/topic6049-apologize.aspx Message from MrDrWho13 Dreeko wrote:
I don't see the problem. These things were only sold second hand. Think of the Muvizu store as a Gumtree for 3d stuff lol!

I've seen these models advertised on the forum many times, and haven't once noticed anything about them not being Clayster's own work.
Some of the apology seems a tad insincere or feigned to me, but I imagine that's simply down to the words he's used to explain himself.
However, it's clear Clayster was a bit naive about the whole situation, and he's taught anyone who reads this thread a valuable lesson.
I hope nobody else makes the same mistakes.]]> Fri, 18 Nov 2016 17:01:17 GMT http://www.muvizu.com/Forum/topic6049-apologize.aspx Message from Dreeko Fri, 18 Nov 2016 16:54:17 GMT http://www.muvizu.com/Forum/topic6049-apologize.aspx Message from clayster2012
I need another video....hmmm..something different..something that will show endless limits to the capabilities of what muvizu can really do,maybe a sci-fi with monster effects, need ideas here!

anybody smell rubber burning?
edited by clayster2012 on 18/11/2016]]> Fri, 18 Nov 2016 16:51:55 GMT