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07/02/2011 21:43:07

ziggy72Muvizu mogulExperimental user
ziggy72
Posts: 1988 		Thought I'd better just create a new topic rather than try to appropriate someone elses! Specifically, I'd like the following;

The option to turn off the mouse prompts (I get it! Honestly! RMB and everything! No need to take up the bottom of the screen anymore!)

Numbers on the scales. Please. Even if it's just a single number for each scale to tell you what value it reads, I need to be able to repeat the rescaling (especially now that we can rescale in other directions).

A customisable Timeline - I don't need every track on there for every character, and the Timeline takes up a lot of screen space, so being able to disable a few lines would help a lot. There could be a row of checkboxes along the top to allow you to re-enable tracks as and when needed. Obviously the tracks wouldn't be deleted when disabled, just hidden.

And some other stuff that's occured to me as I've been animating...

-Assuming we can turn off the mouse prompts, the timeline could be shown lower on the screen.

-The cue points prevent you from selecting the start/end markers of the Timeline when they're on top of them. Any way we can make the start/end markers bigger or something?

-Would love to have a graphical representation of the waveform on the audio tracks. Works great in Premiere...

-The ability to zoom in further to show distinct frames for precision (read : Pedantic) control.

-Guns. Nothing to do with the interface or Timeline, I know, but I'm going to keep asking anyway.

-An option to turn off the auto drop down menu behaviour - I'd prefer to have to click on them to drop them down, so I don't trigger them by accident (which I do a lot).

-In the Make Video screen, it would be nice to have the left side (currently empty) showing the name of the video, the path/filename it's being saved as, and the codec information.

I'll be back with more...
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07/02/2011 22:07:45

DreekoMuvizu mogulExperimental user
Dreeko
Posts: 1257 		ziggy72 wrote:
Thought I'd better just create a new topic rather than try to appropriate someone elses! Specifically, I'd like the following;

The option to turn off the mouse prompts (I get it! Honestly! RMB and everything! No need to take up the bottom of the screen anymore!)

Numbers on the scales. Please. Even if it's just a single number for each scale to tell you what value it reads, I need to be able to repeat the rescaling (especially now that we can rescale in other directions).

A customisable Timeline - I don't need every track on there for every character, and the Timeline takes up a lot of screen space, so being able to disable a few lines would help a lot. There could be a row of checkboxes along the top to allow you to re-enable tracks as and when needed. Obviously the tracks wouldn't be deleted when disabled, just hidden.

And some other stuff that's occured to me as I've been animating...

-Assuming we can turn off the mouse prompts, the timeline could be shown lower on the screen.

-The cue points prevent you from selecting the start/end markers of the Timeline when they're on top of them. Any way we can make the start/end markers bigger or something?

-Would love to have a graphical representation of the waveform on the audio tracks. Works great in Premiere...

-The ability to zoom in further to show distinct frames for precision (read : Pedantic) control.

-Guns. Nothing to do with the interface or Timeline, I know, but I'm going to keep asking anyway.

-An option to turn off the auto drop down menu behaviour - I'd prefer to have to click on them to drop them down, so I don't trigger them by accident (which I do a lot).

-In the Make Video screen, it would be nice to have the left side (currently empty) showing the name of the video, the path/filename it's being saved as, and the codec information.

I'll be back with more...


Neil!...NEIL! ... I think thats the ziggphone again...
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07/02/2011 22:42:45

NeilExperimental userMuvizu staff
Neil
Posts: 396 		Dreeko wrote:
Neil!...NEIL! ... I think thats the ziggphone again...

WHAT??? I CAN'T HEAR A THING OVER THE NOISE OF THAT PHONE!


Hehe, all great feedback, Ziggy. Much appreciated.
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07/02/2011 22:55:38

ziggy72Muvizu mogulExperimental user
ziggy72
Posts: 1988 		Oh yeah, and a phone answering animation (landline and mobile). Thanks for reminding me
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08/02/2011 10:12:51

glasgowjim
glasgowjim
Posts: 698 		And a "call me" animation (Thumb at ear, pinkie at mouth)!

Ziggy's suggestion making seems to be infectious........
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08/02/2011 10:34:19

KerryK
KerryK
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Posts: 176 		@glasgowjim ssssshhhhhhh! don't encourage him!
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08/02/2011 10:39:35

DreekoMuvizu mogulExperimental user
Dreeko
Posts: 1257 		ziggy72 wrote:
Oh yeah, and a phone answering animation (landline and mobile). Thanks for reminding me


have to take my hat off to your feature requesting abilities ziggy.
you don't miss a trick

D
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08/02/2011 11:06:44

NeilExperimental userMuvizu staff
Neil
Posts: 396 		Dreeko wrote:
have to take my hat off to your feature requesting abilities ziggy.
you don't miss a trick

Shhhhhh, he'll want a "taking hat off" animation.
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08/02/2011 12:02:08

DreekoMuvizu mogulExperimental user
Dreeko
Posts: 1257 		Neil wrote:
Shhhhhh, he'll want a "taking hat off" animation.


you're your own worst enemy!

D
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08/02/2011 12:42:31

glasgowjim
glasgowjim
Posts: 698 		Next thing you know someone will suggest this:

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08/02/2011 13:09:04

freakmoomin
freakmoomin
Posts: 272 		all great suggestions zig!
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08/02/2011 19:35:10

ziggy72Muvizu mogulExperimental user
ziggy72
Posts: 1988 		I must confess that all my suggestions are generated by my own impatience at trying to get things done, but I imagine what bugs me must bug someone else, so...long lists of feature requests!

As for phone gestures and taking off your hat etc, I think having a 'grab point' at characters wrists and ankles to allow you to puppeteer them would be good thing (not the first time this has been suggested I know, but with ragdoll physics you can make characters do all kinds of wierd things you wouldn't make a pre-set animation for). I have lots of fun in Oblivion and Fallout 3 playing with the dead bodies. Oh, that so doesn't sound right! Whaaaaa?
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08/02/2011 19:37:01

ziggy72Muvizu mogulExperimental user
ziggy72
Posts: 1988 		Dreeko wrote:
ziggy72 wrote:
Oh yeah, and a phone answering animation (landline and mobile). Thanks for reminding me


have to take my hat off to your feature requesting abilities ziggy.
you don't miss a trick

D


Just learned from reading your posts, Dreeko!
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10/02/2011 23:03:10

NeilExperimental userMuvizu staff
Neil
Posts: 396 		Since I've been chatting a little about the new UI that's in development, I just wanted to take a moment to go over Ziggy's points here. Please bear in mind that I'm discussing work that's still very much in progress, and I reserve the right to completely change my mind if it looks like hard work.

ziggy72 wrote:
The option to turn off the mouse prompts (I get it! Honestly! RMB and everything! No need to take up the bottom of the screen anymore!)

Okay, I get it! You want more screen real estate! In the new UI, dialogs won't be constrained to the main Muvizu window so you'll be able to drag them anywhere you like, even onto another monitor if you have one. In that case, would you still want the option to turn them off?

ziggy72 wrote:
Numbers on the scales. Please. Even if it's just a single number for each scale to tell you what value it reads, I need to be able to repeat the rescaling (especially now that we can rescale in other directions).

Annoying, isn't it. The new sliders will have text boxes next to them where you can see the actual numbers, or even type them in. And little up-down arrows. And they'll work with the mouse wheel too.

ziggy72 wrote:
A customisable Timeline - I don't need every track on there for every character, and the Timeline takes up a lot of screen space, so being able to disable a few lines would help a lot. There could be a row of checkboxes along the top to allow you to re-enable tracks as and when needed. Obviously the tracks wouldn't be deleted when disabled, just hidden.

I haven't really done much with the new timeline yet, but I expect much of it to be collapsible. With the click of a button you'll be able to hide/show an entire set of tracks.

ziggy72 wrote:
Assuming we can turn off the mouse prompts, the timeline could be shown lower on the screen.

Again, this window will be divorced from the main window, so you can drag it anywhere you like.

ziggy72 wrote:
The cue points prevent you from selecting the start/end markers of the Timeline when they're on top of them. Any way we can make the start/end markers bigger or something?

I'll bear that in mind.

ziggy72 wrote:
Would love to have a graphical representation of the waveform on the audio tracks. Works great in Premiere...

This is something I absolutely want to do. It might not make it in at first, but it's definitely high on my priority list.

ziggy72 wrote:
The ability to zoom in further to show distinct frames for precision (read : Pedantic) control.

Noted.

ziggy72 wrote:
Guns. Nothing to do with the interface or Timeline, I know, but I'm going to keep asking anyway.

Ummm... not my department, I'll leave that for Vince and Barry.

ziggy72 wrote:
An option to turn off the auto drop down menu behaviour - I'd prefer to have to click on them to drop them down, so I don't trigger them by accident (which I do a lot).

I have a prototype of a new nav-bar that works as you describe. There's a small technical hitch with it, so you may have to live with it a while longer, but I'm working on it.

ziggy72 wrote:
In the Make Video screen, it would be nice to have the left side (currently empty) showing the name of the video, the path/filename it's being saved as, and the codec information.

I'll bear that in mind. If I can add it without cluttering up the interface with confusing, technical gobbledygook, I'll do it. Let me know if you can think of any other improvements to this area.

ziggy72 wrote:
I'll be back with more...

Please do. If you do, I may even post a couple of screenshots to whet your appetite.
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10/02/2011 23:44:33

ziggy72Muvizu mogulExperimental user
ziggy72
Posts: 1988 		@ Neil - I wont go through them all again, but suffice to say I'm well happy at the proposed changes/updates and glad to think I'm contributing to something that will make all our lives easier (potentially, at least!) in the future. Couple of observations on your list :

Yes, I'd still turn off the mouse prompts even if I had a hundred screens (I actually use 2 just now, so being able to spread Muvizu around will be excellent)

Can't get us guns, eh? Point me at these Vince and Barry characters, I have posts to write!

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11/02/2011 05:51:45

ukBertyMuvizu mogulExperimental user
ukBerty
Posts: 975 		Neil,

Can I just chip in here......

The camera windows and "make video" windows are way too small for me. Whilst you're under the bonnet making them "undockable", can you make them scalable ?

Cheers

Berty
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11/02/2011 08:37:27

NeilExperimental userMuvizu staff
Neil
Posts: 396 		ukBerty wrote:
The camera windows and "make video" windows are way too small for me. Whilst you're under the bonnet making them "undockable", can you make them scalable ?

Yup. There might be performance problems if you make these windows too large, but that's the plan.
The camera windows also have yesterday's drag-and-drop functionality so you can drag a camera texture straight out of the camera window and onto a texture property in an edit dialog.
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11/02/2011 17:27:37

ziggy72Muvizu mogulExperimental user
ziggy72
Posts: 1988 		Neil wrote:
The camera windows also have yesterday's drag-and-drop functionality so you can drag a camera texture straight out of the camera window and onto a texture property in an edit dialog.


You can do what!?! Now you're just freaking us out, man!
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13/02/2011 20:26:12

DreekoMuvizu mogulExperimental user
Dreeko
Posts: 1257 		This new UI sounds great cant wait to get my hands on it! On the subject of cameras any chance of having more of them possibly on a tabbed window as below to save on screen size




Cheers

D

PS: my movies have been postponed at the moment due to my home decorating duties which have been ignored for far too long.....Dang!
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13/02/2011 20:56:22

NeilExperimental userMuvizu staff
Neil
Posts: 396 		Dreeko wrote:
This new UI sounds great cant wait to get my hands on it! On the subject of cameras any chance of having more of them possibly on a tabbed window as below to save on screen size

That's a great idea. The problem with adding more cameras is that they're slow to render and make Muvizu crawl, but this way we wouldn't need to render any more than we currently do. I was planning to talk to the other devs next week about ways to add more cameras without having to render their viewports, and you may have hit the nail on the head. Nice one. Applause

Incidentally, I was prototyping the new camera window on Friday and I added three tabs to it. Mine were for changing the layout into a horizontal strip, a vertical strip, or a grid, but it looks just like your mockup. Spooky! Whaaaaa?

Dreeko wrote:
PS: my movies have been postponed at the moment due to my home decorating duties which have been ignored for far too long.....Dang!



Buggrit. I was looking forward to Staundoone II. Oh, well. Seeing as you're busying yourself, do you want to do my neglected housework too?
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